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Albert Gallienne married Sophia Hamon – 1902

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Sometimes, when researching the family tree, the saying: “There is no smoke without fire,” rings true and is worth listening to or bearing in mind.

My grandmother Grace, always believed her mother, Florence, was from Guernsey. Florence Gallienne died when Grace was 9 years old, so it is understandable that Grace knew very little about her own mother. Her father could have told her more except Grace was put in an orphanage along with one sister and one brother. Family stories do not get passed on in orphanages.

So when I did my research into the Gallienne side of my family I found out that in fact it was Grace’s grandfather, Albert Gallienne that was born in Guernsey and not her mother.

I confess, that this side of the family has been difficult to research and form a bigger tree. I know next to nothing about the Guernsey Galliennes and even less about the Jersey Hamons.

What I did find out with help from www.guernseyancestry.com a while back, was the following:

St. Pierre du Bois, Guernsey church where Albert was born on 25th January 1870

St. Pierre du Bois, Guernsey church where Albert was born on 25th January 1870

Marriage date: 30th March 1902

Albert Gallienne was 32 and a Mason, residing in St. Peter, Guernsey when he married Florence Sophia Hamon. Albert’s father was Alfred Gallienne.

Florence Sophia Hamon - circa 1960

Florence Sophia Hamon – circa 1960

Florence (b. 1884) was 18, residing in St. Luke’s when she married Albert. There is a 14 year age gap between Florence and her new husband Albert. Her father was Philip James Hamon (there are many many Philip Hamons in Jersey at this time, so this does not help much.)

These details are form the St. Luke’s Church Marriage Register (ref: 1873-1908 page 399)

The extra information written on a marriage record regarding the bride and grooms father’s is invaluable for making the next step further back in the tree.

This is the first record of evidence that Albert is no longer in Guernsey. The previous year, in 1901, Albert, aged 31, was living at La Planque, St. Pierre du Bois, Guernsey as a boarder in the household of  Elie Bree, a shopkeeper. As far as I know an Elias John Bree was godparent to Albert and Florence’s daughter’s baptism in 1906. This was the baptism of Florence Anna Gallienne, Grace’s mother.

I have no idea why Albert moved to Jersey, apart from fact that maybe there was more masonry work available in the larger island. I do know that he stayed and had four children with Florence: Albert Philip, Florence Anna, Henry and Philip James. I do not know where he died. It seems that Florence Hamon may have married again to a Mr. Michel but I have yet to confirm this.

I wonder how they met? Florence’s father was a news vendor at the time of the marriage. But what is interesting is that the Elias Bree (b. 1877) whom Albert was living with as a boarder in 1901, later is married to an Anna Evaline Hamon (b. 1875). Anna is Florence’s older sister. So maybe Elias visits Jersey with Albert where he meets Anna, who introduces Albert to Florence? It’s all speculation, but it’s all possible too.

 

Alfred H. W. Gallienne – died 21st October 1919

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Today is the anniversary of the death of my great great great grandfather Alfred Henry William Gallienne. This ancestor has been quite tricky to trace. For many years he was known to me as Alfred W. Gallienne, as I thought Alfred H. Gallienne was a different person with a different wife. But recently during my visit to Guernsey in July 2013, I made a few break throughs with my Gallienne family tree and discovered that they were one and the same person. These things take time to clarify and you don’t want to add things to your tree that are incorrect, especially on a place like Ancestry.com where incorrect details are often shared or passed on.

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A spontaneous visit to the Priaulx Library resulted in my mother and myself finding Alfred’s death in the local paper, as you can see in the photo below.

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My mum helping me search through the old newspapers

A visit to the Priaulx Library is a ‘must do’ on your list of things to visit when in Guernsey on a family tree hunt. Not just purely for the records but because the building inside is a wonderful step back in time and  everyone there is so helpful.

1841 – Alfred H. W. Gallienne and his twin sister Matildh Sophie were born sometime in 1841 in Catel, Guernsey. Possibly the son of Sophie Pipet.

Screen shot of Gallienne family in 1841 census

1851 – Alfred, age 10, is now living at The Catel, Guernsey, where he is listed as an ‘inmate’ along with Nicholas Gallienne, aged 66,  John Gallienne, aged 16 and Thomas, aged 14. The Catel was once a poorhouse and hospital.

1867 – Alfred, aged 26,  marries Louise Brehaut in St. Pierre Du Bois, Guernsey

1871 – Alfred, aged 30, is aboard the ship “FASHION’ – rank: able seaman. His wife Louisa is in the 1871 census at home with her father Thomas Brehaut and their sons: Alfred and Albert.

1881 – Alfred, aged 40, is head of household and is living with Louisa his wife, now a CHARWOMAN and their sons Alfred, Albert and daughter Louisa. He is recorded as working as an Agricultural Labourer.

1884 – Alfred’s wife Louisa dies at the age of 43, reason unknown.

1891 – Alfred, aged 50, is now living in Planque, Guernsey, with his new wife Rosalie Brehaut. Is this a sister of his first wife Louisa Brehaut. It is possible as this was common practice in those days. Living with Alfred and Rosalie are their sons Alfred (22), Albert (21), daughter Louisa (20), and Edwin (8) and John (4).

1901 – Alfred, aged 60, is still living in Planque, with Rosalie, Edwin Brehaut (stepson), John (14) and Alice (8).

1911 – Alfred, aged 70, is living at La Planque, with his wife Rosalie, daughter Alice Mary (18)  and is working as a general farm labourer.

1919 – Alfred dies at home. There is a discrepency with his age. The newspaper clipping says he dies in his 70th year which makes his birth date 1849, but in the 1851 census his age is 10, which makes him born in 1841.

Death notice in newspaper

Death notice in newspaper

This newspaper clipping gave us useful information:

  • the date of his death
  • place of death
  • address in his final year
  • where his final resting place is, although we were unable to find it.

It is always so satisfying being able to complete an ancestors timeline.

If you have Alfred in your family tree and have more information to share I would love to hear from you! 🙂

Albert Philip Gallienne – born 25th June 1904

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On the 25th June 1904 Albert Philip Galienne was born. As far as I know, he was the first of four children to Albert Gallienne (b.1870) and Florence Sophia Hamon (b. 1883). He was my great grandmother’s older brother.

Here is the very little I know about his life:

1904 – Albert Philip Gallienne is born on the 25th June in Union Street, Jersey, Channel Islands.

1904 – On the 10th July Albert is baptised in the Parish of St. Helier. Details on the record are as follows: Mother – Florence Sophia Hamon. Father – Philip James Hamon (a Mason). Godparent –  Ann Hamon (possibly the mother Florence’s older sister – Anna Evaline Hamon b.1875)

1911 – Aged 7 Albert is living at 1 Gregory’s Cottages, James Street, St. Helier, Jersey with his father, mother, sister Florence and brother Henry.

1944 – Aged 36 Albert is living at 20 Halkett Place, he is married and is working as a ‘chargehand’. (Details from Registration Card of Albert Philip Gallienne, born 25/06/1904, and Albert Gallienne registered as a child on the back of the blue form)

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I have no further details about Albert’s life. Interestingly enough I have just looked on the Jersey archives website to double check his address. On the identity card Albert is living at 120 Halkett Place. On the list of addresses on the website there is no such place as 120 Halkett Place. Under his name on the website he is listed as living at 20 Halkett Place.

So I ‘Googled’ 120 Halkett Place and may have just discovered his wife here: 120 Halkett Place

It is still a mystery as to whether Albert lived at 20 or 120 Halkett Place and I will have to try and solve it.

I would love to hear from anyone who can confirm any of the above details or even better add to Albert’s currently very short timeline.

Tracing Your French Surname

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I have the following French/Jersey surnames in my ancestry:

JEHAN

GALLIENNE

GOSSELIN

LE BRETON

LE BROCQ

LE MARQUAND

LOZUET

RABET

Therefore, I have to do a lot of research amongst French records and websites. I have subscribed to a great website called The French Genealogy Blog.

I can’t recommend it highly enough for it’s value and substantive knowledge about researching your French ancestry. One of the posts focuses on French surnames and all the books and resources out there that may help you with your research.

A website they suggest that might be of great use to you is:  www.geopatronyme.com. 

Good luck with your research!

Henry Rabet marries Florence Gallienne

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Henry and Florence in 1933, nine years after their marriage.

On this day 23rd June 1924 my great grandparents Henry Yves Rabet and Florence Anna Gallienne were married in the Parish of St. Saviour, Jersey, Channel Islands.

  • Henry was 22 years old, a bachelor, living in St. Saviours (I don’t know where exactly). He was working as a Labourer, maybe with his father Yves Rabet, also a Labourer, who is on the marriage certificate.
  • Florence was 18 years old, a spinster, living in St. Andrew/St. Helier. Her father Albert Gallienne is on the certificate working as a mason.

Screenshot of marriage certificate.

Henry and Florence married in the presence of Peter Le Vannais and Hilda Maud le Vannais. Hilda is one of Henry’s sisters. How Henry and Florence met is unknown, and in the next six years they start a family and have four children together. My grandmother told my mother that she was brought up in a place called Paul Mill Cottage as seen in the photo below, in Mont de la Rosiere Lane.

Mont de la Rosiere – where Florence and Henry lived in the late 1920, early 1930’s.

 

Certificates are always an exciting purchase and in my eyes are always worth it for the extra details they record.

Eg:

  • professions of both fathers of the bride and groom
  • residence of bride and groom at time of marriage
  • witnesses at the marriage

Muratti Final 1933

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My great grandparents watching Jersey and Guernsey play football.

Seventy eight years ago today, on the  20th April 1933  my great grandmother Florence Anna  Gallienne (sitting at the top) and her husband Henri Yves Rabet (to her right) watched the Jersey football team play against Guernsey for the annual Muratti Final.  Florence is 28 years old and Henri is 30 years old when this photo is taken. By this time they have been married  for 9 years and have had five children. Florence is to have sadly died only 3 years after this photo was taken.

What is great about this photo is that it gives you an insight into your ancestors leisure times and social activities. The fact that they both went to watch football together shows a shared social interest (although I am presuming that Florence enjoyed watching football, I may be wrong!) It also makes sense that later on in time their son Henry (who was 3 at the time of the photo) was mad about football and played well in the school team.

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Henry Rabet Jr. is sitting in the front row, first on the right. Notice the date on this photo, I wonder if it was taken just before Jersey was occupied by the Germans during World War 2? It is likely that this may have been New Street Primary’s football team (the school no longer exists). Henry was living at 45 New Street, Jersey with his father the time this photo was taken.

Anyway, I know very little about the Muratti football games and therefore had to do a little research online. The Muratti is the annual men’s football competition which began in 1905 and is between Jersey, Guernsey and Alderney. The only years where the Muratti did not go ahead was during World War One 1915 – 1919 and World War Two 1940 – 1946.  The teams wear their island colours of green and white (Guernsey) and red and white (Jersey) and blue and white (Alderney).  I came across the website: Guernsey  FA and amazingly enough they have a History section which includes the Junior Muratti Guernsey Team and results:

Date & Place: 1933 April 20 – Jersey

Score: Jersey 4 Guernsey 2.

Team players: R Le Tissier, E Sauvage, W Breton, N Brouard, C Guilbert, G Taylor, H Duquemin, W Stevens, R Martel, S Robert, E Le Flocq.

These are the Guernsey players and I don’t recognise any family names. I couldn’t find the list of players for the Jersey team, but I will try and find them. The website was a great find as it confirmed the date of the Muratti, plus Florence’s grandfather was born in Guernsey so maybe she had family playing in one of the teams???

If you recognise anyone else in either of the photos, I would love to hear from you!