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On this day – Jeanne Marie Rabet was born in 1864 (via My Channel Island Ancestry)

It’s been a year since I wrote this post below. I still have not been able to find out where Jeanne or her husband were buried.

The exciting thing is that descendants of Jeanne’s sons Raymond and Albert have been in touch with me during the past year and have given me so much more information which is fantastic.

Nevertheless, I am determined to find her final resting place one day!

On this day - Jeanne Marie Rabet was born in 1864 Finding Jeanne Rabet ( my great great grandmother) after quite a bit of research was a very exciting time. Two relatives in the family have Jeanne as their middle name and I have always wanted to know where it had come from. Finally one day a relative hands me over a marriage certificate with her name on. I am delighted, I can now tell my cousin why she has Jeanne as a middle name, we knew that she had been named after our grandmother Grace Jeann … Read More

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Pierre Marie Jean Baptiste Gosselin – born 1885

Pierre standing in the grounds of Eden House.

On this day 26th June 1885 (126 years ago), my great grandfather Pierre Marie Jean Baptiste Gosselin was born in Plaine Haute, Cotes du Nord, France. He was the son of Jean Louis Gosselin and Marie Louise Boutier. Jean’s profession is recorded as ‘profession de marichal’ (I am still unsure what this means). I found the records online at Archive Departments of the Cotes D’Amor. I have discussed this website before in the post French Digitized Records & Online Databases explaining  how I discovered the record of my great grandfather, which took a lot of work but was very worth it and so exciting.

Here is Pierre’s Timeline from what I have found out so far:

26th June 1885 – Pierre is born to parents Jean Louis Gosselin & Marie Louise Boutier. the ‘premier temoin’ (which I think means first witness) was Pierre Oger. The second temoin or witness was Michel Boutier.

1900 – At some time around the turn of the century Pierre must have been one of the many French Breton farm workers who emigrated to Jersey.

1911 – In the census Pierre (age 25) is living at Hope Cottage, Samares, St. Clements, Jersey. He is working as a ‘day labourer’. His wife Blanche(age 20) is living with him at this time and is working as a ‘charing’ lady eg: char lady.

1912 – Birth of son Peter Gosselin.

25 April 1914 – Birth of Rene Jean Gosselin (my grandfather).

1914  - Beginning of World War 1.

1916 – Birth of son Henri Pierre Gosselin.

1918 – End of World War 1

1921 – Birth of daughter Blanche Olive Mary Gosselin.

1922 – Birth of daughter Antoinette Marie Gosselin.

1924 – Birth of daughter Genevieve Augustine Henriette Gosselin.

1939 - Beginning of World War 2, Jersey is occupied by the Germans.

1941 – Pierre is living at Eden House, St. Clements, Jersey.

1945 – End of World War 2.

1956 – Pierre dies at the age of 71 and is buried in St. Clements Parish Curchyard with his wife Blanche. This is a grand age considering he lived through two World Wars.

 

Tip: It is always useful to take note of witnesses at births, marriages and deaths as they may be related somehow. As you can see in this case one of the winesses for Pierre was a Michel Boutier, a relation to his mother, but I don’t know how yet?


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French Digitized Records & Online Databases

Just as you are about to give up, you come across a familiar name and then BINGO! You have found your ancestor! That is what happened to me last night at about ten o’clock. I had recently found a great website which had digitilized records for the Cotes D’Amor area of France (ar mor meaning the sea in Breton)  which was previously known as Côtes-du-Nord until 1990 when the name was changed. To get what you want from it’s records you really need to know the area and date you are searching for first, as there is no option for name search. This can be very time consuming but as I found out late last night it was all worth while!

The website – http://sallevirtuelle.cotesdarmor.fr

  • Name - I was looking for evidence of the birth my great grandfather:  Pierre Jean Baptiste Gosselin
  • Place - I knew he was born in the area Plaine Haute, Cotes du Nord.
  • Date - He was born on the 16 June 1885.

 

Pierre's parents are: Jean Louis Gosselin & Marie Louise Boutier

 

 

The website is in French and although I know some French my knowledge is limited. Luckily Google transalated each page for me.

  1. So I selected the ‘Entree’ button to enter the website which presented you with the alphabet.
  2. I then selected the letter ‘P’ for Plaine Haute – dates from 1575 to 1905.
  3. Next step is to select the option: Registres D’etat civil de 1793 a 1905.
  4. I have to admit from here it was just a lucky guess as you are presented with a whole list of dates. I think I selected Lot 11 as it was the nearest to 1885.
  5. 8 images come up on screen, look for the ones which look like they have a list on them and select that page. Check all lists until you find the name you want. Then try and figure out whether to go back wards or forwards to find your page.

There may have been an easier way to search, but I couldn’t find it.

Anyway, it was all free and all very exciting because I have now found the parents of Pierre Gosselin which means I can now go one generation further back! Also I realise that the date I had was slightly incorrect and may be down to a transcription error from the Jersey Archives. The new birth date was the 26th June, not the 16th. An easy mistake to make because the writing from that time period can be quite difficult to read.

The other extra piece of information on the record is the age of Pierre’s parents, their occupations and names of the witnesses.

 

Names of witnesses: Pierre Oger & Michel Boutier.

 

Now all I need to do is brush up on my french!


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On this day – Jeanne Marie Rabet was born in 1864

Finding Jeanne Rabet ( my great great grandmother) after quite a bit of research was a very exciting time. Two relatives in the family have Jeanne as their middle name and I have always wanted to know where it had come from. Finally one day a relative hands me over a marriage certificate with her name on. I am delighted, I can now tell my cousin why she has Jeanne as a middle name, we knew that she had been named after our grandmother Grace Jeanne Rabet, but I wanted to know why Grace had this as her middle name too. Middle names are often good sources of information as they are often from another member of the family (parents or uncles and aunties). The marriage certificate also confirmed for me the husbands name, Yves Marie Rabet and their father’s names. Here is Jeanne’s timeline and what I have found out so far:

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I took this photo of the town sign on a visit to Ploeuc in January 2011. It was freezing cold and I went there by car, which was a lot more comfortable than how Jeanne would have made the journey to St. Malo. It would have taken maybe a day by horse and cart.

1864 - Jeanne was born on the 4 September 1864 in Ploeuc, Cotes du Nord, France. (The name Cotes du Nord was changed in 1990 to ‘Cotes d’Amor’ – Wikipedia)

1880 - Jeanne arrived in U.K.

1885 - Jeanne marries Yves Rabet (a Labourer also born in Ploeuc) in St. Helier, Jersey, Channel Islands in the presence of Francois Rabet & Marie Rowland.

Marriage certificate

1896 - Jeanne gives birth to son Raymond Frank Rabet in Trinity, Jersey. (There may have been other children born before Raymond).

1899 - Jeanne gives birth to a daughter Ada Maud Rabet in Trinity, Jersey. (or is it Hilda Rabet as the name keeps changing in the records?)

1901 - Jeanne is living in Trinity with her husband Yves and their children: Raymond, Ada and Alice (and a boarder Francois Demoy).

1902 - Jeanne gives birth to Henri Yves Rabet (my great grandfather) in Trinity, Jersey.

1908 - Jeanne gives birth to William Rabet in St. Saviours, Jersey.

1905 - Jeanne gives birth to Albert Rabet in St. Saviours, Jersey.

1911 - Jeanne is living with her husband Yves (farm labourer), and children: Hilda (Ada?), Alice and Henri.

1921 - Jeanne’s  Registration card states she is a ‘widow’ doing ‘housework’ to earn a living. She is living at Highfield Cottage, St. Saviour, Jersey.

1940 - Jeanne is now living at 3 Chevalier Road with her son-in-law Peter Le Vannais and her grandchildren. Her daughter Ada Rabet (now Le Vannais) is at Burleigh House on this day (is she working there  or living there?)

1946 - Jeanne is now living at Hauteville, St. John’s Road, Jersey.

1956 - On the 14 July Jeanne dies at the good age of 91. Where she is buried is unknown ( and on my list of  ‘Things to find out’).

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Family tree research and projects are never finished and I will update Jeanne’s life as I come across more information. If you are related to Jeanne I hope you have found this post useful and interesting and if you have anything you could add to this timeline please feel free to share it! Have a good day…

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